right now i can kind of picture that scene in the "monty python" movie where they're like, bring out your dead. there are companies they want to ipo. companies like hilton. you have to think, 2013, six years since they were originally purchased by the private equity sponsors. probably time for them to try, at least, to get those companies out into the public markets. there are a number of them that have tried already, like toys r us. you maybe had them on the other day. >> yesterday, in fact. >> that thing is stuck. it ain't going anywhere. those are the types of things that the private equity firms want to get out in the market. >> toy was public, went private. now we talk about it going public one day again. you put that in a group along with via of names that could go if the economy is strong enough. >> my colleague and i, we talked about this. he says if the economy is really great, then maybe these things get out there. ment but a via, a low-growth business right now, purchased at the top of the market. so many of those privately backed companies that are just stuck. we've seen